'It's really fucking hard': Kim Kardashian bursts into tears while talking about Kanye West and talks about Pete Davidson, the Balenciaga scandal and more

Kim Kardashian has spoken candidly about a number of issues and discussed the high-profile issues in a new interview on IRL's Angie Martinez podcast.

During the chat, Kim talked about co-parenting with Kanye West, the Balenciaga scandal, Pete Davidson, and more.

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1. About her relationship with Kanye West making her even more "fly"

“I used to really feel that way. I have felt some separation since I filed for divorce two years ago. I started to slowly feel this separation… But I think it will always haunt me.”

2. On protecting Kanye West in front of their children

“I definitely protected him and I will still protect him in the eyes of my children, for the sake of my children. So in my house, my kids don't know anything about what's going on in the outside world, and I manage... I'm hanging on by a thread. As long as it is, I will defend it for as long as I can. My children, don't know anything. At school, some of my best friends are teachers, so I know what's going on during recess, and lunch. None of the children ever said anything to my children.

“North has a TikTok account on my phone and only on my phone. They just don’t exist on social media… When something happens, I guard things in the house, down to TVs and other content.”

3. That she will continue to play the music of their father to the children and put on a brave face, pretending that everything is fine.

“Of course, I want to separate myself from specific thoughts and things said because it’s not me, but at the same time if we go to school and they want to listen to their father’s music, no matter what we go through, what happens in the world, I should have that smile on my face and enjoy his music and sing along with my kids and act as nothing happened. As soon as I drop them off, I can have a good cry ... I had the best dad. It's hard, co-parenting, it's really fucking hard,” Kim continued, starting to cry.
“That's all I want for my kids, as long as they can have it, that's what I want for them. If they don’t know what is being said, why would I even give them this energy?”

4. That she only wants happiness for her children

“I just genuinely want them to be happy in what they do. I have very, very happy children. They are such good kids. So happy and kind. And they are probably my biggest reality check. My morning madness of getting four kids ready for school is crazy. I do have helpers in the morning, mostly one person in the morning with two toddlers, I get up very early to work out before everyone wakes up. There is always a baby in my bed, so I leave a note "I'm at the gym." I wouldn't want it to be any other way."

5. Kim started crying when she talked about showing mercy to Kanye West

“You ask me about mercy. One day my kids will thank me for not sitting here and trashing their dad when I could. Of course, all the craziness is killing me for my family. I can handle it... They will thank me and I will personally tell you everything they want to know. It is no longer my business to interfere. Sometimes, obviously, I have to."

6. On how her worldview has changed since the robbery

“Before, it meant so much to me, and it was by the things and cars that I had that I judged my significance. I thought it made me cooler. After all, this was taken from me in Paris, I didn't know I needed this lesson, but this lesson was so well received. I have it all, and now that all my jewelry and stuff has been taken from me, I just don't give a damn about stuff like that. If it happened again it wouldn't affect me, none of it matters, it could all be taken away from you. I was so happy that all this happened to me.”

7. Relationship with Pete Davidson

“It was just so new. I didn't know what dating was for so long. I was in a relationship for almost 15 years, 12 years, or something like that. I don't know, there's a part of me that thinks, "Oh my God, is everyone going to be scared because I don't have the easiest ex?" I don't think it's fair to ever put someone in that position... There's a part of me that wonders why I even have to live like this. I'm definitely in my fun zone."

8. About the visit to the White House

“I hated how I felt when I first walked into the White House and I didn’t know half of what they were saying, like all the pardon talk, all the lawyer jargon, and everything they talked about. I literally sat there and corresponded with my lawyer, who was next to me. I didn't even know what all the abbreviations were called in the White House, so they said, "OK, this man is in DOJ, and I'm like, 'What?' My lawyer was like, "Come on, Department of Justice." And she kept writing and explaining all these things to me, but I never hesitated to ask, and I think that sometimes when you get into something and you feel like you should know all this, and so I just dived into it".

9. About Kim's phrase about the fact that "no one wants to work"

“The context of this was that for the past few weeks I have just been interviewing people who will be working in my office. And everyone said, "You know, I only want these hours, I want Fridays off, I don't want to do this, I don't want to do this, so I'll only do this." I come from a time when we would just do anything, any job. We would do everything, even if it was not our job, we would ask for something, and we would just do it. From that workaholic mindset, I think I just came out of all these interviews saying, "Gosh, it's like no one really wants to work."

10. About the Balenciaga scandal

“The story with Balenciaga. It was something like: "Why are you silent?" And I'm like, “Wait, I'm not in this campaign. I don't know what's going on, let me take a look, and as soon as I saw what everyone was seeing on the internet and the reality of the situation, I spoke out and shared my thoughts about child pornography and denounced it. But because I didn't say, "Fuck you, Balenciaga, everyone," people got angry. And it turns out that they are angry if I do not speak out. They get mad if I speak up and if I don't "cancel". They're just mad that if you don't "cancel" someone in today's society, then... I know people talk about cancellation culture, but it still happens. This has never been my place. The point of life is to make mistakes, grow, get involved, and be better people. It is obvious that any sexualization of children, not an ounce of it should be in our brains, in our society. I understand it. I couldn't have put it more clearly, it's terrible, it's disturbing."